#ChurchToo – Making Sense of Rick Blackwood’s Retirement & a Megachurch I Once Loved

“Anthony, could you come in this afternoon so we could meet?” said the pastor I trusted. Later that day I walked through the door of a place where God’s love should be displayed most clearly. After some small chit chat about how my precious wife, Lauren, was doing, this man got to the point. “We have decided to let you go,” he said. I responded, “Why? What did I do? Have I not hit the weekend attendance ‘numbers’ at my campus? Did I do anything wrong?” “No, no, no. You didn’t do anything wrong. We just know that you are eventually going to leave next summer for your wife’s education, so we decided to let you go in the next month because we have to do what’s best for us.” I replied, “But I trusted you. I told you, the pastors, in confidence that we were feeling called to pursue education for her and we wanted to plan for the next campus pastor. That’s why we told you all ahead of time.” I’ll never forget his response until the day I die. “You need to be careful who you trust, Anthony.”

This is just one of the painful memories I have about Christ Fellowship Miami. But, I also remember a week after being on my honeymoon, when my wife had to be rushed to the hospital right after we got off the plane because she had a very serious infection. The next day Rick Blackwood and Eric Geiger came to the hospital and prayed for her. We were considered a megachurch (2,000 or more attenders) at this point. They were both preaching and teaching every week. But they came by and prayed for my new bride. I also will not forget that until the day I die. That was seven years before I was let go.

When I heard that Rick Blackwood would be announcing his retirement this weekend, I wrestled with the public image of him versus the man I thought I knew. As you can imagine, I have struggled with this cognitive dissonance about this church I once loved. Shreena Desai states that ‘cognitive dissonance is the discomfort experienced when holding two or more conflicting (or inconsistent) cognitions, and these cognitions can be ideas, beliefs, values, or emotional reactions.’ I am not the only soul who has felt this way about CF Miami. Others have felt it worse. I’m talking about the ones who have not just rejected that church but every church because of their experience. I’m talking about the ones who have cursed God because of their exploitation and now want nothing to do with the faith. So I write this not out of vengeance or bitterness but out of lament and hope.

My family and I started attending First Baptist Church of Perrine in 2001. We would sit in the first pew on the second floor all the way on the right of the sanctuary and listen to Rick Blackwood teach verse by verse through the Book of Ephesians in the morning and the Book of Revelation at night. We never attended church before this. My parents went forward after a month or so of visiting and believed the Gospel. Tony Isaacs baptized my family shortly after that. My heart still didn’t believe. My parents started attending Rob and Maggie’s Bible Study who taught them about the faith. So many great and unknown servants who loved our family well. My parents started serving and eventually my mom became Eric Geiger’s Administrative Assistant. 

When I was 17 years old, right before my senior year of high school, my mom signed me up for a Christian camp with our church at Camp Kulaqua in northern Florida. Eric Geiger preached the Gospel every night. On the last night, I came forward weeping over my sin. He was the first person to pray over me as a new Christian. Every time I read 1 Corinthians 4:15, I can’t help but thank God for the man who ‘became my father in Christ Jesus through the Gospel.’ He prayed that God would use me and that my life wouldn’t be the same. God definitely heard his prayers that night because I had an instantaneous fire and love for Jesus. I not only loved my Savior, but I loved the church that shared this Gospel of grace with me. I really believed that the next best thing to sharing the Gospel with people was trying to get them to visit my church. I knew they would hear a powerful exposition of the Scriptures and be cared for if they joined this church. 

I very quickly started serving in the youth ministry under Jeff Borton. He took me under his wing and helped me grow as a new Christian. I graduated high school and eventually started interning in his ministry. The church changed its name to Christ Fellowship Miami at this point. After a couple of years, I got married to my precious wife and became the youth pastor at the Christ Fellowship West Kendall campus. My new campus pastor handed me ‘How to Win Friends and Influence People’ by Dale Carnegie and told me this book will help me grow my student ministry. I started to read a bunch of business books and the student ministry started to grow. We eventually grew to 200 students in a movie theater, but it was never enough. My vocabulary as it related to the church now included words like strategy, growth, numbers, expansion, invite, success, etc. Not that any of these words in and of themselves are bad, but they became the primary ethos we breathed. We kept hearing about how we had exponential growth and we had to be good stewards as one of the fastest growing churches in America.  

A short note about the former Campus Pastor who became the Executive Pastor after Eric left to Lifeway. This man met with me at least three times a week for almost four years. He gave me tons of advice professionally and personally. He helped us financially when we couldn’t afford to live off of $15,000 a year as a youth pastor. He paid for my accommodation on our honeymoon as a gift. He also screamed at me when he was angry that we weren’t reaching our goals. He also threatened to fire me on multiple occasions if I didn’t do exactly what he said. He also liked to shame me in front of my peers as his way to try and motivate me as a cog in the machine. He also talked bad about me to my own family. He also yelled at my father-in-law the first time they met at Johnny Rockets in the Falls when he found out I was marrying Lauren at 19 years old (thank you Pablo for not yelling back and modeling how a godly man should respond). This was one of my pastors who was eventually ordained by this church I loved so much. If I didn’t obey him, I was told I was disobeying God and as a result would lose my job.” This man really was a parable of this church – on the one hand so kind and generous but on the other hand so vindictive and intimidating if you didn’t get in line. It was so confusing going from Eric to this man because Eric is a good man. 

Pastoral abuse is horrific. It is the exact opposite of God’s love for his sheep. It is manipulative and controlling. It is unhealthy. It is sin. It is abusive. The reason it isn’t just abuse, but spiritual abuse, is because God’s name is being tied to it through the under-shepherd(s) doing it in the name of Christ for the sake of reaching people. It is a terrible representation of how God treats his children because it isn’t true. It is one of the things that Jesus saw in his own day and denounced the Pharisees for it in Matthew 23. It is something that I eventually committed myself. Jesus taught ‘a disciple is not above his teacher, but everyone when he is fully trained will be like his teacher.’ So I want to state publicly that I became the very thing I hated. Eric and Julie Isaac, I want to apologize to you for treating you as if you existed to serve me and ‘my ministry.’ You didn’t deserve that and I am sorry for the example that I set. Please forgive me. Alex and Nelly Gonzalez, please forgive me for not caring for you two and getting mad when you left ‘my ministry’ and this church. Rosa Blanco, please forgive me for firing you for placing unrealistic expectations on you. I was trained to use spiritual language to try and control you when I wanted you to obey me. You were not the problem. Please forgive me. And to the others that I hurt as a pastor while I was there, please forgive me for my sin and the pain I caused you. 

Eventually the Executive Pastor’s actions started to be a lot more noticeable. I would meet with Rick Blackwood, the man who I respected so much, at least once a month for lunch and tell him about all that was going on since he never went to any of the meetings and would really only hear about the great things that were going on from that one man. He learned about the abuse I was receiving in the ‘name of God’ but also how it was happening to others. He heard about the unjust firings when you confronted your superior for being a bully, the meetings where certain campus pastors would cry because of the yelling, the manipulative ‘voting’ where all the musicians are told they need to raise their hands at the weekend services when significant decisions needed to be enacted because of the by-laws, the misleading weekend announcements of where money was going even after we didn’t have certain partnerships anymore, the big financial gifts to certain pastors, the threatening text messages, the backhanded comments about the churches of pastors who left but were still ministering in the city, the bad references from senior leadership when you were looking for a job because you told them why you were leaving if you weren’t fired, the coercive push on pastors to sign a non-compete that as a pastor we would not serve or plant a church within a certain number of miles of a Christ Fellowship campus, the cover up of sexual sin in the staff including a youth pastor sleeping with a minor at one of the campuses with no mention to the parents of the youth ministry of what had happened, the senior pastor being able to appoint and replace whoever he wants when he wants on his personnel committee or other boards, and no true accountability for senior leadership. This is why over 50% of the staff have left this church in the last few years. 

The word that ultimately comes to mind when describing this church culture is toxic. That is the word you will hear from staff and volunteers who were close enough to actually see what was going on and chose to speak out. It seemed as if the men and women who were enforcing this toxic culture were being rewarded with more power which has led to the current leadership structure to this day. This is why in order to have true change the current leadership needs to be honest with what took place. Instead of staying quiet and enforcing this toxic culture so that they might move into senior leadership positions (which has happened), they need to confess and repent from their participation and enforcement. In order to stay in a place that covers a bunch of stuff up you have to have people who are willing to protect the institution at all cost. It’s as if Caiaphas illustrates this on a greater level when prophetically talking about the death of Jesus. John 11:50 states, ‘It is better for you that one man should die for the people, not that the whole nation should perish.’ The Message states it this way, ‘Can’t you see that it’s to our advantage that one man dies for the people rather than the whole nation be destroyed?’ It is better for you that one sheep should suffer for the institution so that the institution should be preserved at their expense. The culture was distinctly different from what you heard in the sermons on the weekend. It wasn’t until you were all in and you committed to leading that you would really see it. The saddest thing is most don’t realize it until they have been let go for ‘not producing’ or leave out of exhaustion and disillusionment. Then they realize how much this church was using them to meet their goals and wonder where all the friendships went once they left this church. It puts the people who are there in an awkward situation because they will start to hear ‘oh that person wasn’t a good employee’ or ‘the problem was them’ and because you trust your pastors you believe them until you are the next sheep to be slaughtered. 

After I was let go from this church that I loved so much, I was an emotional mess. Even in my own life, I started to struggle with sexual sin and hurt those I love. I became obsessed with this church. I wanted to be validated. I was disillusioned. I was jaded. I was bitter. I was angry. I wanted repentance. I wanted justice. I sent an email to Rick Blackwood privately and then to the five men on the leadership team that Rick was ‘accountable’ to. It went nowhere. Next thing I knew my email was blocked along with others who voiced their issues with covering up the toxic culture. It was blamed on the executive pastor who I believe walked away with a very nice severance package where each party was not allowed to discuss one another publicly lest they be sued. Tony Isaacs, a very godly man, told me he tried to persuade Rick to not cover this mess up. Nothing happened. People suffered and didn’t understand why Rick wouldn’t take responsibility as the Senior Pastor since he kept this man there for so long even when he knew the pain everybody was going through. One person told me privately that the reason they couldn’t connect their wounds to Rick’s leadership is because he was such a nice guy. This is hard for most to accept because they think they know somebody because they have heard them preach for hours and hours and years and years so it’s the illusion of thinking you really know someone when you don’t. 

It took me a while to connect the dots. This man taught me how to preach. He preached at my ordination service and was one of the pastors who laid hands on me. He was the one I ran to when I was being spiritually abused by the Executive Pastor he hired, he invited me on multiple occasions to just get away and stay at his house in South Carolina, he led my parents to the Lord, etc. God used him in my life in so many ways. This is why it was so confusing. One person who experienced a lot of abuse as a child said it reminded her of when her father would beat her and she would tell her mom what happened and her mom would say you just need some ice cream to feel better but her mom wouldn’t fix the problem. She allowed the abuse to occur for way too long and would downplay the pain. Not to make light of physical abuse in any way but that is a somewhat helpful analogy to explain the emotional and spiritual misconduct many have felt. 

I have always been afraid to speak out. I’ve been afraid to share my story because of the potential repercussions. I was afraid of hurting the name of Christ but I realized this is actually a call to heal the body of Christ. I needed distance though. I needed growth in my own life. I needed compassion for them. I needed grace. God started to work in my life and show me I was no better. I needed grace too. God needed to break me and humble me. For ten years I was basically told I was great because I was a charismatic speaker and I could draw a crowd. I found validation in that. I found recognition in that. But God needed to crucify my ambition before I wrote this so that there would be no pride or arrogance in my own heart lest that get in the way of this lament. How can one hate the very men who helped save their soul from hell by sharing the Gospel with them?   

My call is for honesty and responsibility. I pray that when the pastors and leaders of this church read this they will not shake their heads in disgust but examine their hearts to see if there are past sheep they need to confess and repent to. I pray that they would not see this as a denunciation of all that they do for Christ but rather a reorientation of their ambition, since one’s ambition for success can suppress Christ’s call to care for the sheep. I pray that in this time of transition they would care more about the fame of Jesus than their legacies. I pray they would care more about their loyalty to Christ than to any man. I pray they would sit down individually and corporately to ask God who they have overlooked and hurt so that they might humble themselves and seek reconciliation. I pray that you would not ignore this but see the compassion behind this letter. You could either see this letter as a spiritual attack from the enemy or as a grace from a concerned former pastor who once loved this church with his whole heart.

I have prayed for this church I once loved so much. God brought back to mind many memories, some good and some not so good. But this isn’t the end of the story. The best really is yet to come with confession and repentance. May this be a season of repentance and humility and joy and peace. Rick, I pray that the Lord would give you many more years on this earth and I am grateful for you. 

In Christ,

The Wounded 

71 thoughts on “#ChurchToo – Making Sense of Rick Blackwood’s Retirement & a Megachurch I Once Loved

  1. We all have been hurt by members of the church body at CF. Why would something like this happens is because we are dealing with human with corrupted flesh, like you and I. As I tell my son and myself, we serve for God’s Glory and not for our own benefit either financial or spiritual.
    All these problems will end if all people serving the church are volunteers without a salary then you will really find the true lovers and followers of Christ.

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  2. Wow! So I just read this and have so many thoughts:

    – This is not a letter with the intent to create unity and spiritual accountability for the Church. These are the ramblings of a immature, prepubescent teenager with severe repressive issues. I have never encountered such gossip and maligning with such ill intent (in or out of the context of the church).
    – I worked with Anthony when he recruited me to lead worship at Miami Beach Campus. He assured me that God was “calling him” to lead and grow the MBCF ministry only to announce not more than 3 months later that “God was calling him elsewhere”. During my time with Anthony I thought he was immature, lacked emotional intelligence, did not handle constructive criticism well, and had trouble with authority. I find very little sympathy in his words as I was one of the ‘peers’ in the staff meetings at WK for some time before Anthony was let go. And let’s be honest and transparent with who you are talking about throughout this article. Frank Hopkins was the eventual Executive Pastor that would hold you and I accountable in our WK staff meetings. The way he kept you accountable in those meetings was not what made him a bad leader, that’s what made us better leaders. This is not an endorsement of FH as an executive Pastors as I didn’t have much contact when he was in that role, but I can speak with full conviction that Franks authority in our CFWK staff meetings was effective and served the church/campus well. You can have many reservations about FH, but as I read through this article it is only evident that he should have offered you even more authoritative guidance.

    – here is the part of this article that is most infuriating to me: “the cover up of sexual sin in the staff including a youth pastor sleeping with a minor…with no mention to the parents”

    If the above is true, this is not ‘sleeping’, this is RAPE. Where was the police report you filed for this. If this is true be transparent and provide names and context so we can pursue this. These are grotesque claims and I want answers as a member of this church. Who was the rapist? Who was the victim? Who covered it up?

    If this is true, please advise. However, my suspicion is that this may be gossip, covetousness, and slander as most of this article was.

    I am saddened by the words on this article but I am encouraged by the fact that most will read these words and understand the bias coming from the writer.

    Anthony, I am here if you want to expand on your positions and opinions. I am shocked that these thoughts are coming out years later behind the guise of a computer. Also, I can’t get over your slanderous comparison of Rick Blackwood to a physically abusivo father. That is gross…

    Here if you want to talk: 305-903-5720

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      1. Actually, no. There is no “consensual sex” between clergy and a minor. It is rape, and is illegal, and if this indeed happened, every church leader who knew of it was legally obligated to report it.

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      2. Consensual sex with a minor is different? What world do you live in? It’s literally illegal and it’s rape. Ever heard of power dynamics? Probably not. Parents and authorities should’ve been involved.

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    1. I just felt like you should have gave him your number and then say let’s talk instead Of commenting your thoughts first.. but it’s all love on both ends

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    2. I mean… I just feel like.. you should of said here’s my number .. let’s talk before you called him out all of those names…

      You would of been better off having a private conversation with him… but it’s all love on both sides for me.. even though I agree with Anthony.. but I feel like .. to address Anthony post.. it should be out of love too

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    3. I’m not going to address the former part of your comment. However, Anthony’s noting of the sexual sin is 100% true. The uncovering completely altered the campus. You can say whatever you want regarding Anthony; his comment is accurate, though. No one wanted to discuss it. Leaders knew it happened.

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    4. Coming from someone who was also employed and volunteered at CF, this sounds like nothing but a Glass Door review form a disgruntled employee. First of all, this ‘open letter’ starts with being ‘fired’.

      One mans ‘actions’ doesn’t dictate the entire church. And when Anthony goes on to ‘apologize’ for his actions, he uses excuses for his behavior. If you truly are sorry, own up to it and move on. Don’t add any ‘buts’ or blame others for your actions as a grown man & leader. Anthony is grown enough to know how to treat others, no matter how he was treated.

      This is nothing but a vengeance against the church and Pastor Rick. Anthony’s choice to post this on the eve of Pastor Rick publicly announcing his retirement only shows he wanted vengeance on the church and Pastor Rich

      From my experience at CF, you are 100% held accountable for your actions. Certain people are not as warm as I would have wished, but it certainly does not display the church as whole. I actually reported to Anthony’s mom. And at one point, I remember she made me ‘volunteer’ at an event where I remember specifically I told her I’d rather sit and be a guest. But she wouldn’t budge. Does she represent the ‘entire church’? Of course not. But she is human and made a decision based on emotion. Like most of us. Because we are ‘human and make human mistakes’. And this wasn’t based on upper management. Trust me when I say, there was more than enough help.

      And let’s not forget that Anthony was known to be ‘rough around the edges, sloppy & very hard to work with’ type

      Jesus did nothing but love. Even after he was betrayed, never once did he write an ‘open letter’. He simply loved and moved on.

      Anthony – you seriously need to do the same. If you think this ‘letter’ will stop everything CF has done for the community & all over the world – your in a battle all alone. Let’s learn to ‘love and move on’ like Jesus did. He never publicly disgraced anyone.

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    5. To be honest, i worked there too, I felt a lot of what he felt. I can’t speak for others. You sound you’re upset, as if “how dare you speak this way of us” I can’t back up a lot of his points, but I can definitely put in my input

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  3. Working with CF for a few years left me disenfranchised with the church for several years. I loved Rick, but the primary model of leadership was through fear and intimidation. This culture was exaggerated greatly under the Executive Pastor you referenced, but was in play long before him.

    Thanks for sharing man. You aren’t alone in your experience by a long shot.

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  4. Anthony, for a long time I was angry at you. I always blamed you for my “benching”. This caused me more pain than anyone knows but after reading this, I see why things played out the way they did and I forgive you. I too loved that church. I gave up going to college for that church. I was there basically every day. Served as much as I could. Then when I was “benched”, by order of all pastors, I was devastated. I was punished after I had given so much. I brought up issues as well, like a former musician getting drunk and smoking marijuana every weekend and posting it on social media and the response I got was “oh yeah we know. We’re working on it” and nothing ever happened. That person was still allowed to be on stage, leading people, and his lifestyle outside of church never changed. However, I was “benched” because basically I served too much. I never understood why you would throw chairs in meetings when things didnt go according to plan but I know now that you too were being abused. I continued serving every Sunday at the Redland campus for many years after my “benching” but things were never the same. My passion for the church was mostly gone. I was passionate about God and that was the only reason I still served every Sunday but deep down i knew that CF never really cared for me or my wife. She was too abused. Often made in charge of things without help. She would ask for help and never received it. It always felt like if you not were part of the “cool crowd” you were not part of the church. After moving to Virginia, it was real evident that no one cared. No one called, no one texted, nothing… this church left a huge wound in not only me but my wife as well. It’s hard to believe that there’s people that still don’t see, choose not to see, or worse see it but ignore the issues with this church. The image portrayed to the public is so different from what really happens within. Maybe things are different after I left 3 years ago and I hope they are. I’ve seen most of the people I served with leave and some people may wonder why but I know. CF has the ability and resources to be so much better and influential but I think the toxic culture within has to be fixed first. Anthony, thank you for writing this. I hope all is well with you and your family. If you would like to talk call me at 7867284790.

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  5. Wow! That was powerful and passionate and pretty honest. I worked at CF in the main campus when Eric was still there. While there was always an amazing message each week, I also got to see that it was all a giant show produced almost like a Broadway show. Sets were built and used on the stage. I printed worship folders and had a calendar of sermon series titles that would go through the whole year. That was wierd to me because how can a person know in January what God will be speaking to you about in July. So I asked Rick that question and was basically told that if he felt lead to preach something different that he didn’t do it because the sermons were already planned.

    My second eye opener came when my 2nd grade son was suspended from the academy for using the expression I’m gonna kill you when arguing with a student. The next week Rick was walking through the office loudly talking about a baby who kept crying during the service and said the words “I could have killed it because it wouldn’t stop crying”. I made the comment that wow my son was just suspended for saying those same words. The next day I was in Patty’s office being reprimanded for saying that.

    I think that CF is a great place in theory. However I dont feel like it’s a real church. It’s all for show, and I’m not surprised to hear about abusive pastors. There were some amazing ones there, but I imagine they have already left.

    Thanks for sharing your heart.

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  6. Firstly I’d like to thank Anthony for his understanding from an insider’s perspective and writing this piece. It takes guts to come out publicly with what anyone believes is inappropriate. Many will judge and spew hate instead of unity without being in Anthony’s shoes.This unfortunately is a part of a perspective that led me to leave CF for good after many years of serving.

    I had many questions that weren’t answered and to this day don’t feel values are honored to assist some in following Jesus. I believe the management team is disconnected from Rick and make decisions that may not be in the best interest of the entire congregation. If Rick is retiring I wish CF PB were left in better hands. I have seen a difference before Frank, while Frank was EP and post Frank and it wasn’t for the positive.

    I have chosen to lead my family away from CF and follow Jesus without a bureaucratic mess. Its a shame to see what CF has become because it was an amazing place to worship a few years ago.

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  7. I deleted and rewrote this several times.

    Anthony, you are doing nothing wrong if you have personally reached out to CF and they did not do anything in response. It’s a shame to see people attack your character because they don’t like what you’re saying. Then proceed to call you immature… that’s..ironic.

    It was suggested for me and my significant other to have an abortion after we got pregnant.

    I don’t know if all this is true but i could absolutely see a scenario where these things happened….

    Frank ruled with authority and showed no spiritual fruit. He came into a thriving church and created nothing but conflict and chaos. Let’s not even discuss how pastors and other people on staff were not paid living wages but there was always enough money for all the lightning and fancy set designs.

    I love the people at CF. I love the people who hurt me genuinely. This needed to happen a long time ago. I will not allow people to slander Anthony for telling the truth.

    In Christ,

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  8. Wow bro. This explains a lot. I was an intern for a few years and I saw my share of hurts. I thought it was just me, but I see I’m not the only one that was hurt. Thanks for sharing

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  9. Anthony, I now have an answer for what i saw and felt as i served with you at the Miami Beach campus. I saw you preach with such fervor but in my spirit i sensed it was in your flesh. With what you have said, the pressure you were under to make it happen, i now have a deeper understanding. I too loved CF but never trusted in it or any man. Scripture notes in John 2:24 But Jesus did not commit Himself to them, because He knew all men, and had no need that anyone should testify of man, for He knew what was in man.

    To all who served Jesus, to all who were hurt, to all who had lofty ideas about following Jesus. One only needs to look at scripture to see that following the Lord may cost you everything. Jesus said, “Will you lay down your life for My sake?”. We have all answered YES to that question only to take back our lives again then to lay them down again.
    Church is not only for the Christ follower but also for demons. Look at the parable of the Kingdom of God in Mat 13:31

    Another parable He put forth to them, saying: “The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and sowed in his field, which indeed is the least of all the seeds; but when it is grown it is greater than the herbs and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and nest in its branches.” Notice they come to nest. Not just to visit but to build their “nest egg”.

    As long as there has been a church there has been the enemies of the church. Paul’s writings abound with examples of men trying to gain from un-godly behavior.

    Last words to you my friend, Jesus said, “Be of good cheer, for I have overcome the world”.
    Keep serving, fight the good fight, keep pressing onward and to the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.
    AMEN?

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    1. Remember I served for many years under Bob Coy at Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale. The same things were happening there and you know the senior pastor fell into sin with a woman, or 2 or 3? I am still serving the Lord at CC Merritt Island and still loving my Jesus.

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  10. I’m glad that you are speaking up. I have attended Christ fellowship PB since I was 10 and have seen the change. I have served along with attended. I encountered leaders who would be verbally degrading, judge others in front of me, and forced beliefs that have made me question my faith. I am thankful for the few that have guided me and were kind to me in my time there. I’m almost 20 years old and can say that I have struggled with depression/anxiety in which I have lost my belief in faith.

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    1. Elisabeth M. If you are struggling with depression etc. please don’t turn from the faith because of how people treated you. Jesus never said follow my people but rather he said “Follow Me”. If you want to get help for your problems here is a link to CR. It helped me even after i thought i was fine. It say’s recovery but please note it is for people who have, “hurts, habits and hangups”

      https://www.celebraterecovery.com/

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  11. Thank you Anthony. Some may choose not to believe, but I pray to God that He would open their eyes to the truth.

    I was wounded by CF. One of my pastors had a choice: cover up a sin or lose a good “employee”. They chose to cover up a sin and it led to years of pain and suffering for me and my family.

    That pastor still works there today.

    So I encourage everyone to share their stories. People may refuse to believe Anthony’s story but they can not refuse all of us.

    God bless you Anthony.

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  12. When the church is treated as a business and focuses on money, numbers and power it loses its main purpose: to serve, to love and to be a sanctuary for any that seek it.

    I hope this brings about uncomfortable but important conversations to CF and to other congregations who find familiarity in your story and for churches to hold their leaders accountable for any unhealthy or abusive behavior.

    I encourage you to speak or reach out privately to those who hurt you and those that you hurt. I understand why you wrote a public letter but real relationships heal and move forward outside the internet.

    Best wishes.

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  13. I worked for a period of time at CF in the Palmetto Bay campus during this era, I can confirm some of Anthony’s post. There was always a strange sense of allegiance to the church that was expected that never rubbed me the right way. Upon starting my time there I will never forget the pastors that hired me telling me to not share anything I was told or hear at work with my wife, should have been a big red flag.

    I have a lot of fond memories from CF, but also a lot of strange ones like the one described above. From the side I was on and the meetings I attended it did feel more like working in a high growth business vs working at a church.

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  14. As someone who attended and served at CF for 10+ years, it’s disheartening to know a letter like this is making rounds on the internet. Despite your best intentions, writing this and publicizing it via social media is now transforming your plea for repentance into ungodly thoughts and conversations. This is not what Matthew 18 refers to (as someone alluded to on Instagram). And to author such a letter on the weekend Pastor Rick announced his retirement is absolutely shameful. Part of being a Godly man is having the wisdom to use discernment, and you sir, failed to do so.

    Personally, I experienced much of what you wrote about during my time in ministry at Christ Fellowship. And certainly, if some of the other accusations you mentioned actually occurred, then there absolutely needs to be accountability. But there is no perfect church, nor will there ever be, and men like you and I are the sole reason for this fact. The weight and expectations that people like us put on CF is a token to our disappointment. I had a sense of pride attending Christ Fellowship as I’m sure you did too based on your aforementioned obsession. Did we ultimately elevate the body of Christ above Christ himself? Possibly. Could there still be partial emotional, sinful ties? Probably, given the impact the previous regime had on your family. I can vividly recall a Facebook post upon the firing of a certain Executive Pastor that read, “Bang, bang. The witch is dead.” This is too close to home for you, Anthony.

    One thing I do know; thank God for grace and forgiveness, and the fact that we are recipients of mercy and don’t need to allow sin to define who we are. The bitterness and resentment that followed my time in ministry are a product of my own sin, not the result of bad leadership. You mentioned the praise you’d receive for your charismatic style and how you wanted to be validated… Well, I can assure you, I will not be providing that. Instead, with this letter, you have mirrored some of the behavior you are lamenting. You are suppressing the body of God. You’re demeaning men appointed by God. And you’re spreading slander! This was not brave. This is not the avenue. You have been deceived by the enemy’s mirage of redemption and he used you as a vessel to stir up gossip. (This goes to all others who feel invigorated to share their stories. Please, use wisdom.)

    Christ Fellowship has and always will have a special place in my heart, despite our differences. God is at work in that church regardless of the wrongs committed by men. Because, at the end of the day, it’s His church! As for the appointed shepherds that mistreated the flock, I think the bible is very clear how God will deal with them in Jeremiah 23 and Ezekiel 34, which obviously applies to you too. Judgement/Repentance/Vengeance is the Lord’s, not Anthony’s. God will not let his sheep be slaughtered at the hands of mere men. I’m encouraging you to remove this post. And if you do truly desire reconciliation as you mentioned, maybe you should put your forgiveness to the test by having these discussions corporately with leadership present and invite others who have been wounded to join you. I would join you. We are brothers in Christ. And though I disagree with your method here, I have nothing but love for you and pray you find what you’re looking for.

    Sending my best wishes to you, Lauren, and the kids.

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    1. Just because there’s no “perfect church” doesn’t mean we shouldn’t speak out when leaders use their positions of power to manipulate and abuse the people they lead.

      Was this the best way to air out grievances and find redemption? Arguably not.

      But it’s high time congregations held their leaders accountable and in turn become self-reflective into their own play of the game.

      I encourage Anthony to seek one on one conversations with the people that hurt him and the people he hurt if he wants real healing but I also applaud him for starting a conversation that is very much long overdue and I hope churches and leaders everywhere start being more introspective and intentional with the cultures they create.

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    2. Stephen,

      You’re just wrong on so many levels… exegetically, ethically, and pastorally, (if you are in any sort of ministerial role.) It’s never going to be a good look to not believe abuse victims, to silence other abuse victims, and you’re falling into that publically. There’s no way telling other spiritual abuse victims to not share their stories is ok. Suppressing the marginalized, weak, and broken under the guise of protecting some false unity that comes from covering up sin, even the sins of a church is unbiblical. Christ is for our repentance, not our pride. Unity comes from repentance, not pride, cover-ups, or ignoring the issue.

      “This is not what Matthew 18 refers to (as someone alluded to on Instagram). And to author such a letter on the weekend Pastor Rick announced his retirement is absolutely shameful.”

      Bro, Matthew 18 is in reference to individuals, not systems of abuse. The article isn’t about individuals, it’s the story of individuals who’ve made up a system of abuse for staff at CF for years. If the entirety of the Scriptures is to be considered authoritative, then we have plenty of examples of public laments of evil that look just like this in narrative and Psalm form. Were the Jews in Psalm 137, any of the imprecatory psalms, any of the lament Psalms, the entire books of Ezra and Nehemiah, and in Kings defying the God who authored both of the texts?

      “”Personally, I experienced much of what you wrote about during my time in ministry at Christ Fellowship. And certainly, if some of the other accusations you mentioned actually occurred, then there absolutely needs to be accountability.””

      Bro, you’re right! There needs to be accountability. ALSO, accountability comes when people speak out, and are supported. You, like CF, are gaslighting and suppressing a person detailing abuse they experienced since they were a child. Anthony sent this letter to CF and they ignored him. Your own statement makes no sense, on one end you’re calling for accountability, after just telling people to not speak out after a whole bunch of people were ignored.

      You’ll remember this illustration for your entire life because it’s so absurd. If there was one black person left after slavery in the 1800s, and he was hurt because he was abused, would he have to Matthew 18 every person along the story of his trafficking and mistreatment? Would he have to Matthew 18 all white people in the South? Or could he post a lament calling out injustice, and morning and hoping that his oppressors would repent of their sin and embrace him in an honest posture, instead of some weird false unity? (I’m not equating Anthony’s treatment to slavery in the South, and don’t attack the example I’m using to illustrate the argument I’m making.)

      “”I can vividly recall a Facebook post upon the firing of a certain Executive Pastor that read, “Bang, bang. The witch is dead.” This is too close to home for you, Anthony.””

      Please read your Bible brother. Psalm 137 verses 7-9. Instead of calling out Anthony for this, deal with our God who inspired this sentence. Reconcile this text along with many others that aren’t so dissimilar to what Ant wrote.

      8 Daughter Babylon, doomed to destruction,
      happy is the one who repays you
      according to what you have done to us.
      9 Happy is the one who seizes your infants
      and dashes them against the rock

      This changed my life, but listen man, we can bring our laments communally to God. We can express our anger, pain, even hatred to God PUBLICALLY, and COMMUNALLY over evil systems and organizations, (in the text’s case, Babylon), knowing God will be the perfect judge and executor of justice that we could never bring, or dream of even happening. Unless you want to literally rewrite the faithful words of our Old Testament brothers, or spin some weird alternate history of the covenant people of God, you gotta deal with this exegetically.

      Saying that probably not the most mature post of an arguably distraught abused person, but still, I’m only deconstructing a really bad and damaging argument you’re making here.

      Also, this is a Tu Quoque Fallacy, where you’re basically saying Anthony’s argument is invalid because he’s a hypocrite.

      “The bitterness and resentment that followed my time in ministry are a product of my own sin, not the result of bad leadership.”

      Y Porque no los dos? I mean it’s fine that you feel that way, but I don’t about my church abuse experiences. This is reductionistic, and it’s imposing your experience on Ant and others.

      “You are suppressing the body of God.”

      Idgi. How? by telling the truth? I don’t think a movement that the gates of hell, the Roman Empire, Mao, Stalin, and various others cannot stop can be stopped by a bearded white dude in NC.

      “You’re demeaning men appointed by God.”

      Like Nathan did to David that one time he called David out in front of God and everyone?

      “And you’re spreading slander!”

      Call out the lies specifically, or this holds 0 weight.

      “And if you do truly desire reconciliation as you mentioned, maybe you should put your forgiveness to the test by having these discussions corporately with leadership present and invite others who have been wounded to join you. I would join you.”

      Homie, he tried. Lots of people tried. You don’t set the standards for knowing Ant’s heart here, which you’re questioning.

      “Sending my best wishes to you, Lauren, and the kids.”

      TLDR: Best wishes Anthony, to you, your wife, and your kids, even though I just called you a gossip, slanderer, and took a huge dump on your post. This isn’t even a good virtue signal.

      Bro, you should delete your post, lest you be remembered as the dude who tried to silence a legitimate childhood church abuse victim, who was groomed from the time he was a teen, who admitted to becoming the evil that was done to him.

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      1. Anonymous (since you failed to use your name and attack me),

        I’m not in disbelief. I experienced much of what Anthony mentioned in his post, along with many of my friends. I’m certainly not silencing any others either, I’m only pleading that we use wisdom in speaking about these matters and that we abide by the guidelines set in Matthew 18. That is my argument. I’m not protecting the wrong taken place at Christ Fellowship or any other institution. As for Matthew 18, it’s quite clear that Anthony took the first step of approaching leadership. Did he invite others along with him? Sure, others approached leadership individually, but there’s no mention of that happening collectively, so I’m encouraging that step. As for telling it to the church, I think you actually agree with me that this wasn’t the best approach. Taking another brother’s sin to the church does not entail airing out dirty laundry publicly. It means precisely what the scripture says it means, tell it to the church. Your example of slavery doesn’t compute, because we are talking about an institution, not the prostitution of an individual amongst other individuals. Taking it to the church, bringing it to the church, telling it to the church, there is no misinterpreting what scripture is saying here. This is a personal call to action, not one taken behind the keyboard of a computer.

        I don’t appreciate you insinuating I don’t read the bible. I’m very well aware of scripture and very well aware that we can lament publicly and communally our displeasure of others, institutions, or even God himself. He is the perfecter of our faith and He is the perfect judge. My mention of a previous post on Facebook that was made was directly for Anthony, because I know the impact things have had on him and his family. I know him personally. I grew up with him. So, your questioning of my intentions not even knowing my involvement or my heart, is misinformed and misguided. I’m not calling Anthony a hypocrite, I’m only stating the fact and enforcing the fact that this was not the best approach for Anthony to take.

        No man causes another man to sin. The emotions of bitterness and resentment and others alike are ultimately the product of your own sin and no one else’s. Can others cause you to stumble? Absolutely. And that is what has taken place at Christ Fellowship. Bad leadership, sinful leadership, leaders who shouldn’t be leaders, have led to countless unwise and hurtful decisions that have been the root cause of pain to hundreds of people. However, the sinful aftermath in our own lives is what we are ultimately responsible for, and the leaders who mistreated the herd will be accountable too, which again, scripture is very clear about. This is a call for others to look within and not just cast all the blame of their hurt and bitterness on CF. Forgiveness is not found in the apology or repentance of another. Forgiveness is found in acknowledging your own sin and understanding that just as yours has been covered, so has theirs.

        Yes, the truth shall set you free. If you know me, and I’m assuming you don’t, no one knows this better than myself given the amount of sin I’ve had to confess in my life. But confession, repentance, rebuke, are all personal acts. Even your example of Nathan and David was a personal act. The argument being made here is Anthony tried. He approached leadership and was ignored. He wrote to leadership and was ignored. He even sent this letter to leadership before posting it here, probably because it was ignored. Honestly, that’s a terrible thing to have something like this fall upon deaf ears. Luckily, if there’s one good thing to come of this is that those men will now likely have to answer some difficult questions as a result of this letter. Thankfully, God does use all things for His glory, despite our foolishness. And though this letter may spark some good, it will assuredly cause harm and division because of the publicity it’s getting. That is why Paul writes in Ephesians 4:3 to make every effort to keep unity through peace. Because nothing is more demoralizing to the body of Christ than strife and slander. Anthony may have dealt with his emotions and found forgiveness, but his letter is causing others to stumble and sin, because others are speaking up out of anger. Others are starting rumors and dragging the names of men through the mud who may or may not be involved. Anthony is now a mirroring, to a different degree, the same behavior in the leadership he is calling out in causing others to stumble.

        I’m not questioning Anthony’s heart. I believe him. And I believe we actually long for the same thing. I’m only questioning his method here. Just because he initially tried doing things the right way to no avail does not mean he’s justified in doing this. His letter has received many names attached to it in agreement. Great! Let’s unite and do something about it. My one regret is I wish we could have been united differently and under different circumstances, because I’ve gone through the list of commenters and likers and frankly, I’m not surprised by any of them. Like I said, I have a lot of friends that have been impacted by the actions and inaction of Christ Fellowship. We should have spoken up and been unified in our protest. But many, myself included, chose to leave the church instead and take the easy way out.

        I’ll conclude with this, homie. You probably don’t know me and I probably don’t know you. But I do know Anthony and it sounds like you do to. I do pray he and his family are doing well. I grew up with Lauren and Megan. Pablo and Illiana opened their house to me when I was a teenager and I remember having small group there and always being welcomed. I remember Anthony’s fire when he first came to the faith and eating at PF Changs at The Falls and getting super theological with him. I remember the competitiveness we’d share on the dodge ball court when my team went against Anthony’s and Roy’s. I remember my time working at The Living Word with Deanna and having laughs about the crazies that would walk in there. I’m not calling Anthony a gossip or a slanderer, but his letter has certainly given gossipers and slanderers an avenue to do their thing. I’m not advocating for “the wounded” to be silent. I’m pleading for all to use wisdom. I will not be deleting my post just because you don’t know my heart. But I am still encouraging Anthony to remove his post because of the sinful uproar it has caused. We can still address this issue biblically. Take the names of those affected and let’s take personal action as exemplified in scripture time and time again.

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    3. Brother, this is a public lament, which you seem to still have no category for even after ‘Also Wounded’s’ reply to your initial post. Abuse has occurred. People have been deeply wounded on a massive scale, so there are bound to be consequences. There is a principle at play here: Confess your sin quickly, before it finds you out. 1 Timothy 5 is clear, do not accept an accusation against an elder unless on account of 2-3 witnesses. If there are witnesses, rebuke before all so that all might stand in fear. I realize that 1 Timothy 5 is within the context of the local church just like Matthew 18, but the church has completely ignored what the biblical mandate is, namely, rebuke the sinning elder and those who were complicit in this sin “before all.”

      With that in mind, there is an ethical reality here that we have to face. Victims of abuse should not stay silent, especially when ignored repeatedly (the 1, the 2-3 as per Matthew 18 – it never got to the church because it’s always been covered). Ephesians 5:8-17 addresses those who continually walk in unrepentant sin.
      11 Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of the things that they do in secret. 13 But when anything is exposed by the light, it becomes visible, 14 for anything that becomes visible is light. Therefore it says,

      “Awake, O sleeper,
      and arise from the dead,
      and Christ will shine on you.”
      15 Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise but as wise, 16 making the best use of the time, because the days are evil. 17 Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is.

      At some point, sin because so grievous and hurtful that it has to be exposed, lest it continue to wound and harm the name of Christ. That’s just it, isn’t it? The glory of God in Christ is the most important thing here. Not the name of any church, not the new believers that have come to faith, not the people who were not part of all the issues of the past; it’s the glory of God that matters most, and God gets glory when his people turn from their sins and trust in him.

      If Christ Fellowship is ever going to be a church worth being part of, it’s going to be by repentance and faith in the Son of God. As long as they continue to try and defend their own name, and stay in the darkness, it will remain an unhealthy church.

      The Bible records that God also laments over the sin and disobedience of His people (Ezekiel 33:1). He laments the destruction of His perfect world and the ongoing rebellion that keeps it in bondage to the enemy. The book of Jeremiah in particular records God’s sorrow over the desolation of His chosen land, Israel. Jeremiah 12:20–21 says, “Many shepherds will ruin my vineyard and trample down my field; they will turn my pleasant field into a desolate wasteland. It will be made a wasteland, parched and desolate before me; the whole land will be laid waste because there is no one who cares.”

      Please, Stephen, I urge you to examine the evidence and the manner in which it was delivered. See the pain of those who are rising up in truth. See the sorrow, empathize with those you don’t understand and seek to gain knowledge of what you don’t know. There is a grand history here to all of this which you may not understand completely, no matter how much you know right now.

      Consider the words of James 3:1
      “Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.”

      The souls of these men will be held into account by God. It is a great mercy that this has come to the light.

      John 3:19 speaks of the judgment of God coming as a great light:

      “And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil.”

      People love darkness, but no one enjoys the consequences of sin. So in order to find healing we have to be willing to face the consequences of our sin regardless of what they will be. The tier level of this sin has crossed many boundaries, that is why it has to be public, because nothing will be done, and souls are at stake..

      ..including the souls of all those who continue to hide in the darkness.

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      1. Sir, you’re just not listening to a word I’m saying. I’m not trying to silence the wounded or the victims of pastoral abuse. I have only said, and am repeating, to use wisdom in how we rebuke leadership, lest we fall into sin ourselves. And my issue is, many have not used wisdom and are gossiping and spreading rumors and that has all been sparked by this post.

        In your first paragraph, you’re bringing 1 Timothy 5 into the equation, which you are correct, is within the context of the local church, as is Matthew 18. And what you are surmising in your statement is, “Since the church is ignoring this biblical commandment, we’re taking matters into our own hands.” When in reality, what scripture is commanding is not a comfortable thing to do. Let’s put ourselves in the shoes of the early church. When it’s said, “Tell it to the church,” do you think it’s insinuating, “let us take the sins of brothers to the ends of the earth, then surely they will hear.”? Or, could it possibly mean, “let us stand up before the church congregation and address the wrongs committed by brothers in the faith who are neglecting rebuke.”? After all, 1 Timothy 5:20 does say to do this, “so that the rest may stand in fear.” Who outside the church, living in sin, would share this reaction? Like I said, it’s a very uncomfortable thing to do, but since I was previously accused of misinterpreting scripture, I’ll make sure I’m very clear here.

        As for Ephesians 5:8-17? Amen! We must expose the sin of those who refuse rebuke and do not repent. And how do we do this within the confines of the church? Do you see where I’m going with this? Ephesians 5:8-17 is not a standalone text. It is pointing us to Matthew 18 on how to expose the darkness with light. I’d also like to point out what Ephesians 5:15 & 17 says, again, just to make sure I’m clear. Let us be wise, do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is. I’m only pointing back to scripture (Matthew 18), because in a situation like this, anything else is foolish.

        The glorification of God is the most important thing. And God gets glory because God gives God all the glory. He frankly doesn’t need anything from us. Can we glorify God through our repentance? 100%. Is it our job to demand it of others? It is not. The future of CF is in good hands, because it is in God’s hands, and He will do with it as He pleases. If that means He tears it down due to a lack of accountability and repentance, then may His will be done. I pray though, as Roy does in his response to me, that the new leadership learns from the mistakes of their predecessors. I pray there is a new standard of accountability. But I’ve found peace and rest knowing that a lack of accountability on earth will be met with harsh judgement in heaven. And that is ultimately the fear the church must have in its lack of repentance. No one is exempt.

        I don’t care to know all the details of the sins of Christ Fellowship or the covering up of said sins. I do see the pain and sorrow of others, as I share in their pain and sorrow. But we mustn’t allow our pain and sorrow to lead us to a sinful response. That certainly is a heart matter between us individually and God himself. I do not know the hearts of all the wounded, but I do read their words ever since this post came out, and it can be argued that this post has triggered a sinful response in many, and that is why I believe it would have been best to take a different approach. A biblical approach. I really don’t think I can make myself any clearer. You may continue to disagree with me, and that’s ok. But please try to listen to what I am saying. One must take a practical look at scripture and take it at its word. You can twist my words, but you cannot spin the word of God.

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    4. Let’s state this very simply. Stephen, victims of abuse that are being ignored should bring these issues to the public so that the insurmountable pressures of the accusations can, Lord willing, bring about repentance for those who have sinned and justice to those that have been deeply wounded and scared for life.

      I realize that those texts apply to the church, I point them out because it is ultimately the responsibility of the church. But when responsibility is not taken, there are bound to be ramifications from sin in the church that come from the outside, because there is an ethical issue here, brother, that you seem to be ignoring. Something must be done. What is the answer?

      All avenues have been tried. What do you suggest? I said that you were silencing the victims because you say that going public with the abuse is wrong on this platform.

      Letters have been written, emails have been sent, to the senior pastor and to the Board of Directors. Face-to-face conversations are met with an absolute “No!” People have been black listed, old friends that sweat for the gospel together no longer exist.

      Please Stephen, help us understand what you think should be done aside from exposing the sin that has caused so much pain to so many families and hundreds of people?

      Biblical approach? A couple of us here have giving you biblical examples of public elements over sin that you have yet to refute.

      You desire healing and repentance for the church, and say that it is in Gods hands. We do not need to get into a debate about God‘s providential care over his creation, because I think we both will agree on such a matter. But we cannot ignore human responsibility when injustice has occurred on a massive scale.

      Again, I ask you, please provide an example of how else we could go about this that has not been tried already. Saying that we should do nothing at all is not really an option.

      Say that to everyone who has paid the price and suffers even today. Say that Stephen, to the families and marriages that no longer exist today at the hands of that church. Say that, to those who were let go unjustly and whose children suffered under the anxiety of a father who suffered a mental breakdown at the hands of a fear mongering dictator. Say that to those who have walked away from the faith at the hands of abusive leaders.

      We cannot control the responses of what people will do with the sin that has been exposed publicly, in the same way that one cannot control what ultimately happens when church discipline takes place.

      Again, I urge you. Help us, Stephen. Give us the answer. This is an open forum, so I publicly challenged you to give me some other scenario for dealing with ethical issues that have hurt so many people. Do you have a category for dealing with this sort of thing? Like, racism for example. What would you do in the case of someone who is experiencing extreme racism within the church? What if that person left the church, and then decided years later and after many others who came out of the church with the same kind of story, but he wanted to write a letter of public lament exposing the darkness of a place that bears false witness about Christ – would you say that he is wrong? Even after trying to take the “high road?” Would you have him stay quiet, and hush him because “Gods got this” ?

      Do you see why we need to have a bíblica category for dealing with these kinds of issues?

      No? Still don’t see it? Again..
      Help us.

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    5. Let’s state this very simply. Stephen, victims of abuse that are being ignored should bring these issues to the public so that the insurmountable pressures of the accusations can, Lord willing, bring about repentance for those who have sinned and justice to those that have been deeply wounded and scarred for life.
      I realize that those texts apply to the church, I point them out because it is ultimately the responsibility of the church. But when responsibility is not taken, there are bound to be ramifications from sin in the church that come from the outside, because there is an ethical issue here, brother, that you seem to be ignoring. Something must be done. What is the answer?
      All avenues have been tried. What do you suggest? I said that you were silencing the victims because you say that going public with the abuse is wrong on this platform.
      Letters have been written, emails have been sent, to the senior pastor and to the Board of Directors. Face-to-face conversations are met with an absolute “No!” People have been black listed, old friends that sweat for the gospel together no longer exist.
      Please Stephen, help us understand what you think should be done aside from exposing the sin that has caused so much pain to so many families and hundreds of people?
      Biblical approach? A couple of us here have giving you biblical examples of public laments over sin that you have yet to refute.
      You desire healing and repentance for the church, and say that it is in Gods hands. We do not need to get into a debate about God‘s providential care over his creation, because I think we both will agree on such a matter. But we cannot ignore human responsibility when injustice has occurred on a massive scale.
      Again, I ask you, please provide an example of how else we could go about handling the coverup of sin that has not been tried already. Saying that we should do nothing at all is not really an option.
      Say that to everyone who has paid the price and suffers even today. Say that Stephen, to the families and marriages that no longer exist today at the hands of that church. Say that, to those who were let go unjustly and whose children suffered under the anxiety of a father who suffered a mental breakdown at the hands of a fear mongering dictator. Say that to those who have walked away from the faith at the hands of abusive leaders.
      We cannot control the responses of what people will do with the sin that has been exposed publicly, in the same way that one cannot control what ultimately happens when church discipline takes place.
      Again, I urge you. Help us, Stephen. Give us the answer. This is an open forum, so I publicly challenge you to give me some other scenario for dealing with ethical issues about sin and abuse that have hurt so many people. Do you have a category for dealing with this sort of thing? Like, racism for example. What would you do in the case of someone who is experiencing extreme racism within the church? What if that person left the church, and then decides years later and after many others who came out of the church with the same kind of story, he writes a letter of public lament exposing the darkness of a place that bears false witness about Christ – would you say that he is wrong? Even after trying to take the high road but is repeatedly ignored by his abusers? Would you have him stay quiet, and hush him because “Gods got this” ?
      Do you see why we need to have a biblical, ethical category for dealing with this?
      No? Still don’t see it? Again..
      Help us.

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      1. He said tell it to the church. It sounds like you just want to keep overlooking this. Stand before the congregation and address the sin.

        Step #5: Tell it to the church (Matt. 18:17).

        At this point, Jesus commands the member to “tell it to the church.” Though “church” has been interpreted in many different ways, Jesus seems to understand the church to be a gathering of disciples in his name (Matt. 18:20, see 1 Cor. 5:4). The church is the congregation. In this step, the elders will communicate what’s taken place to the congregation.

        Given the sensitive nature, it makes sense that the elders would present this at a regularly scheduled members’ meeting, rather than a public worship service. The elders need to think through carefully what and how much to communicate about to the congregation. They want to communicate enough so that the congregation understands what has taken place and the need for church discipline. However, they should not communicate so much that it makes returning upon repentance difficult because of public shame, embarrasses family members, or causes weaker sheep to stumble.

        Given the need for carefulness and precision, it’s generally wise for the elders to craft a letter to be read at the meeting, rather than trying to explain it extemporaneously. In some cases, the elders may want to involve the member who initially brought the charges in crafting the letter. After the elders read the letter, they should allow for questions from the congregation, and invite people to talk to them privately if they have further questions. In more difficult cases, the elders might consider holding a forum for members of the church to bring questions.

        Having been apprised of the situation, the congregation should be instructed to pray. Those in the church who have a personal relationship with the one caught in sin should be encouraged to reach out prayerfully. The elders will want to give the congregation enough time to participate in the process of confrontation.

        This period may be the time until the next members’ meeting, or longer if needed. However, in certain cases, the church may need to act more quickly, perhaps even right away, if the church feels confident about a lack of repentance (1 Cor. 5:1-5).

        https://www.9marks.org/article/a-step-by-step-primer-for-church-discipline/

        7. A public rebuke

        The rebuke is to be delivered before the whole congregation, “…in the presence of all.” There is the tendency in many situations like this to try to protect people from hearing. Sometimes, in an attempt to express sympathy or to act out of a sense of misplaced kindness, there is a private meeting for the church members only, or a subset of the church. It is difficult to see how these approaches are appropriate applications of the scriptural language. The Bible says that the rebuke takes place “in the presence of all.” I understand this to mean the entire congregation, and not before the elders only, as some maintain. Matthew Henry explains it this way, “Those that sin before all rebuke before all, that the plaster may be as wide as the wound, and that those who are in danger of sinning by the example of their fall may take warning by the rebuke given them for it, that others also may fear.” If an elder has a national or international presence it may be necessary for the rebuke to go beyond the local congregation to cover the reach of his ministry. Therefore, Paul’s use of the term “all” should be defined by the scope of influence, with the rebuke extending across the full range of the elder’s influence. It follows that if a local church elder is also a national leader, it is up to the local church to deliver a national rebuke.

        https://ncfic.org/blogs/nine-ways-church-elders-are-to-be-held-accountable

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    6. It’s difficult to have “one on one conversations” or “conversations with leadership present” when they have a long history of manipulation and authoritarian perspectives. When you’ve been in an abusive church, and you’ve weathered those conversations first hand, it becomes clear that it would be fruitless to pursue this.

      You can’t use healthy actions and tactics when you’re dealing with an unhealthy leader.

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      1. Since when is doing the right thing the easiest? Even if it’s not reciprocated, as Christians, we are to act Christlike.

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  15. Respectfully, no. Ideas like “we can’t say anything against God’s anointed” are the very reason abuse thrives in the church. God is not pleased when you keep your mouth shut when these “anointed men” make a mockery of his name and continue to hurt His children year after year. “Unity” is never a reason not to call out sin.

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  16. Thank you for writing and sharing this. We don’t know each other, but I too was left feeling disenfranchised after growing up in this church. It was an isolating feeling not being part of their elite. I think I would’ve once been afraid to voice my opinions. Not anymore.

    In light of the allegations of the youth pastor sleeping with a minor: Make no mistake, that is rape and should be legally pursued, period. Anyone in the church who knew of it should be held responsible for not reporting that information. If anyone knows who the rapist was, it’s their duty to obligation to report this abuse.

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  17. Your bravery and honesty in posting this inspired me to tell my own CF/PBA story on my Facebook page. Many have been deeply wounded by this organization and its inner circles. I hope that in sharing our stories, more people come to terms with their own wounds and begin to find healing. Thank you, thank you, thank you for sharing your heart. ❤

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  18. Please God do something. They can not be allowed to spiritually abuse people anymore. The abuse has to end! We all have these stories, but they mean nothing because these “annointed men” could care less about the Word of God and have instead sold their souls for the “sake of the business”. I didn’t realize how toxic this church was until I left it and saw gospel centered men who actually cared about their flock!!!

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  19. Stephen,

    The Spallone Family is doing very well, everyone of us. Thank you for asking. The Lord will always move you out of unhealthy situations in his time to healthier situations if you give him the glory. My Son has two beautiful sons, a loving wife and a loving family. God is our guide. He wrote a letter that I believe was to help Christ Fellowship’s new leadership when they takeover to understand the last four years at CF and help Pastor Rick when he retires to remember the young pastors that he was shepherd over. Pastor Rick always said that every Shepherd will have to explain to God how he took care of his flock and he will. I pray for Pastor Rick and all the current Pastors at CF. The problem is that since we left four years ago, over 75% of the pastors are gone that were there. That should alarm you about CF.

    There are so many Godly men and women that I love at that church that still go there. They taught me how to show God’s love in everything I do. They were mentors for my wife and I. I pray for them every day and always will.

    Roy Spallone

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    1. Hey Roy,

      Good to hear from you and I really do appreciate your response. Glad everyone is doing well. And you’re right, that is alarming. I remember walking through the PB campus shortly before I left and barely recognizing a single person. That amount of turnover is very telling. I’m with you in praying for CF and I pray that the outcome of this letter does produce a greater calling for accountability and repentance amongst its leaders.

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  20. Since Friday when I first read this my heart is heavy, so so sad. WE the Church are nothing but a product of today’s culture and we are all to be blame for allowing the world to rule in our hearts in a way that we resemble more its value system than the word of God. I admire those here who had the courage to reply with their full name, to those who have hide under anonymity your words have no weight whatsoever not even if you quote the whole bible you are a coward! And to those pastors that have replied after so many years that they knew and NOW want to sound like defenders you are nothing but cowards and conspirators with the harm done, we don’t need your advice, you ran with your tail between your legs. To the Spallone’s family I say may you find the healing you been longing for, may His mercies be upon us all. The Lord is near. Ours is a spiritual war put on your soldier uniform put off all worldliness. To quote scripture first read II Timothy 2:15 and know where to apply it and to whom.

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  21. Some people are not ready, Luis. Please don’t embody the kind of abuse Anthony seeks to address. This isn’t cowardice. Some people are trying to be sensitive and are not ready to reveal who they are. I would ask that you watch yourself, brother, so that you don’t unintentionally hurt the victims that have taken a massive step in saying anything at all.

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  22. This needs to go national. So that other churches and their leaders might take sin seriously. This is definitely like a mars hill situation.

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  23. Anonymous, you said..”He said tell it to the church. It sounds like you just want to keep overlooking this. Stand before the congregation and address the sin.”

    It hasn’t happened, and most likely will not happen. This is also the issue with membership at churches that doesn’t really mean much. As a matter of fact.. when they “vote” in the new pastor (given by nomination of the current Sr. Pastor – wow), the Sr. pastor will call a meeting in the middle of a worship service, and everyone at that service will vote by show of hands. Really? Who are the members? What if guests raise their hands? There are no members meetings at this church.

    It’s so sad.

    This is why it must go public beyond the church. The pain is too great. The hurt caused is worthy of the exposure, and hopefully, this will get the attention of the church so that they can begin holding their leaders accountable.

    What about the statutory rape scandal? These people are in massive trouble.

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    1. There is nothing biblical about what you just stated. Literally, nothing.

      And frankly, on the topic of the sexual sin with a minor, yes, this is outrageous. It’s so outrageous, let’s keep talking about it and do nothing about it! If all those here that are strongly opposed with the handling of such things, who did different? If you’re all such advocates for justice, why are you all standing idly by? If you know the details of what happened, where’s the police report? This is all so hypocritical.

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      1. I’m sure that thousands of people have seen this, and I’m almost positive that there will be a police report. Just watch.

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      2. A spontaneous members meeting in the middle of a weekend service where there are bound to be guests? There’s a massive lack of integrity and bound to be votes from people who are not even members.

        By the way, that’s if membership is even a meaningful thing at this church. By the way things have been handled as per this post and the testimony of others here, I doubt that being a member at this church means anything at all.

        The Bible calls us to have integrity.. and the members of the church (whoever they are..) should have a REAL say in the vote, since they are a congregational church. It is the job of the church to protect the gospel, just as when Paul calls out the Galatians for having been ‘bewitched’ by false teachers. Paul says, “You foolish Galatians..” He also tells the church elsewhere that if anyone were to come to them preaching a different gospel that they should not receive that person.

        The church, the members of the church.. should have a real vote at a members only meeting where this vote can take place with integrity. Do I need to help you see why a lack of integrity is unbiblical? Would you like a Scripture reference?

        Ok, I’ll give you one.

        Proverbs 11:3
        “The integrity of the upright guides them, but the unfaithful are destroyed by their duplicity (double dealing, deceitfulness).”

        Btw, I find your sources are ironic. Maybe you should consider 9marks material more carefully before pulling the trigger of your rebuttal with the gun pointed at your own head.

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      3. The very nomination itself lacks integrity.. because it’s coming from one man, when it should be several qualified men that are pastors/elders that nominate the man. So there’s one major flaw with the nature of the nomination. It comes from the Senior Pastor (one guy) to the board (which are not elders) , and then to the church. There’s an issue there.

        Concerning membership being realized in small groups, that is laughable. I would recommend not quoting 9Marks if you’re going to resort to membership being done through small groups. The size of the church itself is a problem for members meetings, I agree. Since they broad cast their services live, they could have the meeting that way and not spend thousands on a large arena.

        You say this is a matter of preference, when it’s not. There should be a secret ballot cast at a members meeting for a vote of this nature so that folks do not feel pressured by anything outside of themselves and they can then vote in good conscious.. not in some hyped up moment after a speech delivered by the Sr. Pastor. The Biblical formula is integrity. Which you seem to cast aside and mount it up to preference. I’ve just refuted what you wrote regarding members meetings. They could be done, broadcasted, live, with members only. Not an option? Still need to make excuses? It’s a matter of integrity. You’re conscious doesn’t tell you that it’s wrong to hold a spontaneous members meeting in a service to cast such an important vote? Where members are to vote yet no one knows who the members are? And a vote is cast by just ANYONE that’s there? Oh please.

        You think I’m off topic? I’m at the heart of the issue, my friend. A lack of integrity, and double-dealing. A scam that’s been rigged. Everyones already congratulating the new pastor, and he’s not even been voted in yet. This shows the lack of seriousness of and lack of real consideration for the matter at hand.
        
These issues are way bigger than one vote. It’s an ecclesiological issue, a disease rather, wrapped in unrepentant sin – specially at Christ Fellowship.

        But.. truth is, you don’t have to have solid ecclesiology to handle things with integrity. Don’t miss the heart of the issue.

        A members meeting would be a great place. The 1, 2-3 accusations have been ignored, and membership is not serious. If a vote for the new Sr. Pastor isn’t even happening at a proper members meeting with members only, what makes you think that church discipline and reading a letter like this will even be considered?
        Right.

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    2. I’m not rebutting that there needs to be integrity in the church. I’m only rebutting the fact that you found it shocking that the leadership of the church, specifically the lead pastor, casted the nomination for the next senior pastor. That’s exactly their calling and part of their job. Every time I rebut one of your arguments, you seem to drop it and bring something up that is totally off topic to what I’m discussing, but ok. Here we go.

      The membership at CF is what it is. A lot of churches adopt membership these days to combat corrupt legislation that leaves churches vulnerable if they deny the usage of their venue by a protected class. Membership allows churches to then uphold access to “members only”. The calling of membership at CF is realized within small groups. That’s their design based on the size of the church. Can’t possibly get everyone together unless they rent out the Bank United Center again. The way they’re voting in the new senior pastor is by necessity, unless you’re proposing they setup a ballot system like we use during a presidential election. My point is, there’s no biblical formula on how this should be done, it’s a matter of preference. The elders have approved, and the church is to submit to the elders. Cleary, the way they do it is not your preference… you’re getting really petty in your arguments, picking apart every fiber of the church you can get a hold of with tons of assumptions and opinions. I will not be entertaining this anymore.

      By the way, don’t you think your hypothetical members only meeting would be a great place to discuss a letter like this? If only we lived in that hypothetical world. I wouldn’t have had the displeasure of responding to you.

      Go take your internet bullying somewhere else.

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      1. I’m simply responding to what you’re writing. Call it whatever you want.

        The very nomination itself lacks integrity.. because it’s coming from one man, when it should be several qualified men that are pastors/elders that nominate the man. So there’s one major flaw with the nature of the nomination. It comes from the Senior Pastor (one guy) to the board (which are not elders) , and then to the church. There’s an issue there.

        Concerning membership being realized in small groups, that is laughable. I would recommend not quoting 9Marks if you’re going to resort to membership being done through small groups. The size of the church itself is a problem for members meetings, I agree. Since they broad cast their services live, they could have the meeting that way and not spend thousands on a large arena.

        You say this is a matter of preference, when it’s not. There should be a secret ballot cast at a members meeting for a vote of this nature so that folks do not feel pressured by anything outside of themselves and they can then vote in good conscience.. not in some hyped up moment after a speech delivered by the Sr. Pastor. The Biblical formula is integrity. Which you seem to cast aside and mount it up to preference. I’ve just refuted what you wrote regarding members meetings. They could be done, broadcasted, live, with members only. Not an option? Still need to make excuses? It’s a matter of integrity. You’re conscience doesn’t tell you that it’s wrong to hold a spontaneous members meeting in a service to cast such an important vote? Where members are to vote yet no one knows who the members are? And a vote is cast by just ANYONE that’s there? Oh please.

        You think I’m off topic? I’m at the heart of the issue, my friend. A lack of integrity, and double-dealing. A scam that’s been rigged. Everyones already congratulating the new pastor, and he’s not even been voted in yet. This shows the lack of seriousness of and lack of real consideration for the matter at hand.
        
These issues are way bigger than one vote. It’s an ecclesiological issue, a disease rather, wrapped in unrepentant sin – specially at Christ Fellowship.

        But.. truth is, you don’t have to have solid ecclesiology to handle things with integrity. Don’t miss the heart of the issue.

        A members meeting would be a great place. The 1, 2-3 accusations have been ignored, and membership is not serious. If a vote for the new Sr. Pastor isn’t even happening at a proper members meeting with members only, what makes you think that church discipline will even be or reading this letter will even be considered?

        Right.

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  24. This all is just a huge load of crap – ridiculous abuse of time, mentality, and of life itself. The business of religions has contaminated mankind .

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  25. My name is Gert Johnson. I can’t read no more but I do have some words of wisdom. 1. The only person responsible for your actions is you. 2. If you let people treat you wrong and don’t address it then it’s your fault. 3. If you believe in God for others then you don’t really know God. 4. Serving God means to use the gifts He gave you for His glory. 5. Man is not perfect but God is. 6. If you see a problem and you don’t address it then you’re part of the problem. I have served at CF for almost 20 years and anyone who knows me knows that I don’t care who you are or what position you hold wrong is wrong and I will call you on it when it happens not 20 years later. No church is perfect but God’s word is and God has never let me down. I don’t go to church to please people I go to learn God’s word. Just saying.

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  26. I am sorry to hear this. This article was sent to me by one of my youth members. I once visited CF Palmetto Bay and I felt that the whole service was centered in trying to have members (old and new serve). The sole focus was on that. To me the word was watered down. This is a trend that is happening in most churches today. We have lost the fear of God. These things happen because we do not have the fear of God in our hearts. We are allowing sin to take over the church because we are to afraid to call out the sinner. Jesus clearly said it when he was preaching the Gospel. “Repent for the kingdom of heaven is near.” We are afraid of losing memberships than trying to preach the simple gospel. It’s time that we stand up and start preaching what Jesus laid out for us in the gospel. We need to stop worrying about pleasing people and preach the word of God how it was laid out. Many churches are failing because of this. There are people out there seeking the truth and we are not preaching the truth. We are living in a dangerous time and we are letting the enemy take control. It is time for us to stand up and do what Jesus asked us to do. We need to start with a true repentance and have the Holy Spirit guide us.

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  27. I was once staff at CF, custodial, I felt like people there only cared about the aspect of business when it came to the church, because of my role I was literally in every office. Custodial. I worked there from the time I left high school till I started studying for my career. I simply just attend there now. But not many people ever cared to stop me and ask me how I was doing and it hurt, they only called me because they needed me to clean up after them. It’s pointless for me to write down names or point fingers. That won’t take anyone anywhere at this point, and accountability won’t even be achievable either. I tried to talk to a few people regarding how I felt and I was ignored. I do want to say the names of the people who did not ignore me and were great to me during my time as staff.
    Thank you John Moore for sitting down and talking to me and hearing me out despite the challenges you faced with your son, I am grateful for you.
    Thank you Andy Romero for also being my friend and spending time helping me grow and seeing the things I saw in many aspects.
    I do want to say this to the current staff members that may read this. Stop by and ask the blue shirt custodial staff members how they’re doing? They don’t really get recognition or attention when they keep the campus clean nobody notices, but God forbid something is out of order, you wouldn’t want your boss to receive an email from “Sammy” Flores. All hell breaks loose.

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    1. I was a custodian as well. felt the exact same way and like you said, heaven forbid there was spider webs by sammy’s desk or something. when you get to see the staff at such a close proximity and see their lack of empathy, care and even acknowledgement anyone in a blue shirt existed it made the weekends feel very manufactured. I was also at the same exact serving in an internship and it was interesting to see how people treated me when I was discipling their children and not throwing away their trash. some people could not believe the guy who cleaned the bathrooms was capable of leading ministries. bonkers.

      God shaped me in those moments. it truly led to humility and was so easy for me to see how broken and sinful we all are, regardless of title within the church.

      truly grateful for CF, this post and everyone who’s commented here. God bless you all. let’s love each other and be respectful on here.

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  28. Why is it that NONE of the leaders or lead Pastors look or act like Jesus?

    Every conversation I can remember has been aggressive, secretive, fake, belittling or was like bothering a celebrity.

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  29. Thank you Anthony for sharing what many people have been afraid to day – including myself. I was a staff at CF PB campus and the harassment, bullying, discrimination I received almost made me give up my faith. It took me some time to realize that its the people in leadership that is the problem – not the church. I heard rumors of the rape but it was never confirmed. I was also there when Frank Hopkins got fired. Unfortunately absolutely nothing has changed at CF and i am loss as to how to get things to stop. so many people are hurting from what so called leaders have done at CF. I would love to actually start a class action suite because my heart is so broken and if I am honest bitter. Not to get rid of CF but to show these “leaders” that their abuse ends NOW

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